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first_imgWed 12 Nov 2008 19.01 EST Facebook Share | Pick Share on LinkedIn 13 Nov 2008 17:26 Share on Facebook Twitter Share on Twitter Share on Twitter Shares1313 Guardian writers Arsenal’s Jack Wilshere is one of a healthy number of talented English teenagers tipped to be future stars of the Premier League. Photograph: Glyn Kirk/AFP/Getty Images It’s always the same teams, isn’t it? Even if Leeds are relegated to the Third Division. I expect that says a lot about the contacts of the “Guardian writers” (can’t be Barry, can it? He would disdain such a piece).I doubt we’ll hear of more than two or three of these lads in five years’ time. | Pick … we have a small favour to ask. The Guardian will engage with the most critical issues of our time – from the escalating climate catastrophe to widespread inequality to the influence of big tech on our lives. 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Facebook Reply Arsenal have some awsum youngsters, as seen last night. the thing you have to remeber is that the first team dosent win anything. so when they progress into the first team they dont pick up the winning mentallity.manU youngsers will almost certainly win more then arsenals. look at Cesc. cesc is a player whgo should be on a level with messi, ronaldo, rooney, however because he is being played in a team where too much is expected from him – because they lack any senior player or leader in midfield, he has not really pushed on or developed in the last year. he started last season exceptionally, but this season dosent look as good. if you consider spain at the euros, cesc played a further forward role, allowing his passing to be in the final third. at arse this season he has had to play alot deeper, being less effective, looks like he enjoying it less. the great arsene wenger is actually starting to hold his players back by being to stuborn to his principles. his young players will not develop the winning mentallity, because their not winning.the other worry is that that arsenal could become a PSV/Ajax style feeder club if they dont win things soon, developing great players who leave to seek reward.even with players such as ramsey coming throu it is very hard to see where arsenal will win things, the team lacks spine and wengers not willing to do anything about it, so when ramsey comes through it is into a frustrated team, not a winning one.wenger is a muppet for not buying alonso in the summer. full stop. 18mil would have been a bargain, he would have suited arsenals style perfectly, worked wonders alongside cesc, allowed him to get forward and control the game, and given abit of maturilty in midfield.no doubt wilshire, ramsey, vella, merida etc will be outstanding players, but the de silva twins etc at man u will win more, and ultimately be more succesfulvella, merida, cesc will all end up at madrid or barcabut what the hell is benitez doing with Ngog???? Nemeth to rule the world! Share on Twitter Report 4 Share on Messenger Share 13 Nov 2008 11:48 Reply Facebook Report Reply Share Share on Twitter Share Order by oldest slightly tweaking the topic, i know, but the best up-and-coming british footballer is surely mr aaron ramsey, a sublime talent and – dare i say (yes i do) – the welsh zidane: supreme balance, wonderful vision, wiry strength, two feet, awesome close control…. arsenal can look forward to selling fabregas for €50m in 2 years time, knowing they have the replacement coming gently to the boil Show 25 PrivateDic Facebook 13 Nov 2008 16:51 | Pick Share on Facebook collapsed expanded Reply recommendations PollittPerfectRecord Share pierrelemer Share on Twitter 0 1 Facebook 13 Nov 2008 8:58 The writers forgot about Ryan Tunnicliffe the ManU player and Benik Afobe from Arse. Tunnicliffe is still 15 and is playing on the u17’s with Wilshere, Bostock and Shelvey. Afobe is going to make it into the first team for sure.Ram, Mark Randall of Arsenal can be a better version of Carrick IMO. 13 Nov 2008 17:23 Reply Sportblog Share on Twitter hdtvdaly Facebook Report | Pick Share on Twitter Report Share on Facebook Reply Soccer 13 Nov 2008 13:54 Share on Facebook 3 Share on Facebook Twitter Twitter 100 0 1 Facebook 0 1 First published on Wed 12 Nov 2008 19.01 EST Reply Report Twitter Share on Facebook | Pick Share Jose Baxter, 16EvertonStrikerSaid to be better than Wayne Rooney at 14. Bootle-born, he left school last summer and joined the Everton first-team squad that toured Switzerland and the US. Made his competitive senior debut with a substitute appearance at home to Blackburn in August, becoming Everton’s youngest first-team player.Mark Beevers, 18Sheffield WednesdayDefenderLast season’s supporters’ player of the year at Hillsborough, the centre-half has signed a contract to keep him at Wednesday until 2012. He stands 6ft 4in tall, is deceptively quick across the turf and strong in the air, and has already attracted interest from Premier League clubs.John Bostock, 16Tottenham HotspurMidfielderCrystal Palace’s youngest player when he made his debut at 15 years 287 days last season before his controversial summer move to Spurs for an initial £700,000. Tall, elegant and visionary, the attacking midfielder became Tottenham’s youngest player, at 16 years 295 days, against Dinamo Zagreb.Nathan Delfouneso, 17Aston VillaStrikerThe 6ft 1in Birmingham-born striker made his first-team debut earlier this season in the Uefa Cup against Hafnarfjorour and scored a hat-trick on his first appearance for the England Under-17s in October 2007. A regular in reserve and academy sides, for whom he has been a prolific scorer.Fabian Delph, 18Leeds UnitedMidfielderKen Bates laughed off Newcastle United’s £1m bid for a dynamic talent currently not only making his mark in League One but who has just broken into Stuart Pearce’s England Under-21 squad. Arsenal and Manchester United are also seriously interested, but his value has risen closer to £6m. Daniel Drinkwater, 18Manchester UnitedMidfielderTwo-footed and boasting a fine passing range, Drinkwater has been with the club since he was nine. The young Mancunian’s progress was hindered by injury last year, but he remains highly regarded and is an England Under-19 international who looks likely to grace the Premier League.Jordan Henderson, 18SunderlandMidfielderAn elusive right-sided midfielder or deep-lying forward, and equally happy in the hole or drifting wide right, the Wearside-born Henderson caught the eye of England’s leading clubs during Sunderland’s run to the FA Youth Cup semi-finals last season. He made his first senior start against Blackburn last night. Gavin Hoyte, 18ArsenalDefenderYounger brother of the former Arsenal full-back, Justin, the defender joined the club at nine and has proved quick, athletic and astute both at right-back and centre-half. A regular with the England Under-19s and in Arsène Wenger’s Carling Cup side that enjoyed wins over Sheffield United and Wigan.Henri Lansbury, 18ArsenalMidfielderStrongly built and powerful yet creative on the ball and a goal threat, the England Under-17 midfielder has been at Arsenal since he was nine and has recovered from the glandular fever that frustrated his progress in the second half of last season to feature in the Carling Cup this term.Josh McEachran, 15ChelseaMidfielderA skilful left-footed midfielder whom Chelsea have retained despite persistent interest from Manchester United. He can play on the left or right and has already impressed Luiz Felipe Scolari at Stamford Bridge as he furthers his development in the youth sides. Has been captain of the England Under-16s.Jacob Mellis, 17ChelseaMidfielderThe England Under-19 international signed from Sheffield United in the summer of 2007 and has since been employed everywhere from attacking midfield – scoring twice against Liverpool reserves recently – to full-back and centre-half within the Chelsea academy set-up.Victor Moses, 17Crystal PalaceForwardBorn in Nigeria but resident in the UK since he was five, the graduate of Palace’s academy broke into the first-team last season and has since signeda four-year professional contract at Selhurst Park. Strong, skilful and quick, he has maintained his progress this term.Nile Ranger, 17Newcastle UnitedStrikerThe word among Newcastle United’s youth and reserve ranks is “Ranger is the danger”. The prolific striker, spirited north from Southampton’s youth set-up, has sat on the first team bench a few times already this season and is tipped for Shearer-esque scoring feats.Jack Rodwell, 17EvertonCentral defender/midfielderSenior debut came as a substitute against Alkmaar at the age of 16 years 284 days, making him the youngest ever Everton player to appear in Europe. A current Under-19 international often compared to Rio Ferdinand, he is strong, quick and assured. Has made eight first-team appearances this season.Freddie Sears, 18West Ham UnitedForward A run of 25 goals in 24 matches for the youths and reserves forced him into the first-team set-up last season, and it took the striker just five minutes and 16 seconds to score his first senior goal, the winner against Blackburn in March. He has featured regularly this term under Gianfranco Zola.Jonjo Shelvey, 16Charlton AthleticMidfielderThe club’s youngest player, debuting at 16 years 59 days against Barnsley in April, he had made his mark as a goalscoring midfielder in the youth and reserves set-up at the Valley. He captained the England Under-16s in their 2007 Victory Shield campaign, scoring three goals in as many games.Danny Welbeck, 17Manchester UnitedStrikerSkilful, strong and pacy with a prolific scoring record for the United junior sides. Sir Alex Ferguson likens the slightly unorthodox Welbeck to Portsmouth’s Nwankwo Kanu and has said “Danny has marvellous things about him.” An Under-19 international who has trained with the first team.Aidan White, 17Leeds UnitedDefenderThe full-back, who boasts a fine left foot and decent pace, made his debut earlier this season in the Carling Cup defeat of Crystal Palace and was given a standing ovation upon being substituted. He is now making regular appearances in the League One club’s first-team set-up. Jack Wilshere, 16ArsenalMidfielderEye-catching performances in the Carling Cup this season and Arsenal’s youngest league debutant, at 16 years 256 days, when he came on against Blackburn in September. He scored his first senior goal in the 6-0 rout of Sheffield United and had a fine game against Wigan on Tuesday.Michael Woods, 18ChelseaMidfielderPlucked from Leeds United’s academy, much to the Yorkshire club’s frustration, the England Under-18 international made his first-team debut at Chelsea in January 2007 at 16 years 275 days. Scolari called the defensive midfielder up for last night’s Carling Cup tie against Burnley at Stamford Bridge. Email (optional) 25 Looks like the makings of a potential world-cup winning team, right there. A true golden generation. Report Share on Twitter Share via Email Sportblog 0 1 Share on Facebook Reply Share via Email Share on Twitter Share on Twitter Lowfields 0 1 13 Nov 2008 11:07 Report The “big” teams are simply walking in a taking the best youngsters from the “smaller” teams. Tottenham got a huge talent in Bostock by taking him from Palace for a very small sum of money.Arsenal paid £5 million for Ramsey, yet Bostock who many believe is a much better player was had for less than a million. Spurs did nothing wrong, they acted within the crazy rules. The rules need to be tightened, otherwise the smaller clubs will do away with their youth academies and English football will suffer. Why bother investing in the talent when another club will bag a bargain whenever they feel like it? unthreaded Share Share on Facebook All Facebook offsideintahiti Share on Facebook 13 Nov 2008 13:30 route22 13 Nov 2008 11:30 Share | Pick 1 | Pick | Pick Facebook Share Share on Facebook | Pick Report Share on Facebook PS. How much does any Gooner want to bet that Wilshire, Hoyte and Lansbury aren’t playing their football at Arsenal by the time they’re 22?How many English players have had to leave Wenger’s squad just to get a game…? Steve Sidwell, David Bentley, Stuart Taylor, Jermaine Pennant, Matthew Upson, Justin Hoyte, Kerrea Gilbert… how many am I missing?Yeah, that Wenger has been just great for English football….. oh, look, another 16 year old from Togo! How many English players have had to leave Wenger’s squad just to get a game…? Steve Sidwell, David Bentley, Stuart Taylor, Jermaine Pennant, Matthew Upson, Justin Hoyte, Kerrea Gilbert… how many am I missing?The only one of them good enough to be in the Arsenal team now is Bentley. Bentley was allowed to leave because of his attitude, particularly how abysmally he behaved when on loan at Norwich.If they’re not good enough they shouldn’t be getting a game. A good way to boost the value of these young players! Is this piece funded by agents? Ramalution Twitter 0 1 50 Report 0 1 Twitter Soccer Reply Threads collapsed Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Reply Share Guardian writers pick their best 20 players in England who are 18 or under SFChapman Facebook Facebook Twitter Twitter route22 hungrymanjosh Loading comments… Trouble loading? Facebook Share on Twitter blogposts newest Share on Facebook Reply Twitter Facebook Report ItsGoingIrish Share on Facebook | Pick Reply Report I literally know none of these players-they could be part of the SBS for all I know.Could the guardian though make a distinction which are going to be say: ‘Michael Carrick’ good and are there any that could be ‘Maradonna’ good? pierrelemer 0 1 Sign in or create your Guardian account to recommend a comment Facebook oldest Report Share Reply Facebook Reason (optional) Twitter Reply | Pick 1 Share on Facebook Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Twitter 0 1center_img 13 Nov 2008 15:14 Since you’re here… PollittPerfectRecordNov 13 08, 2:20am (about 5 hours ago)It’s always the same teams, isn’t it? Even if Leeds are relegated to the Third Division. I expect that says a lot about the contacts of the “Guardian writers” (can’t be Barry, can it? He would disdain such a piece).The statement reflects more on your knowledge of academies than the Grauniad, who historically, notably tend to shy away from praising Leeds.What’s your point?As many that know about these things appreciate, Leeds have one of the very best academies in the country, and unlike some of the “bigger” clubs, genuinely encourage their youngsters rather than sign them to prevent others doing so. So does their inclusion come as a surprise?Alan Smith, Jon Woodgate, Micah Richards, Scott Carson, James Milner, Aaron Lennon, Paul Robinson, Harry Kewell, Ian Harte, plus as many again that are now plying their trade in the top two divisions started at Thorpe Arch, the superb facility set up by Howard wilkinson.Michael Woods was “plucked” by Chelsea alright. A substantial out of court settlement ensued.These lists are all fine and dandy but a couple of years ago might have featured any number of names who haven’t quite made the grade. The question would be “why” and I suspect that, as one or two older pro’s are starting to mumble, the youngsters aren’t worked hard enough, get too much financial inducement to remain with the bigger clubs and are never stretched in the way that they should be, retreating into what amounts to a comfort zone.Added to which, lads aren’t always going to grow to be fully formed players – many hit a ceiling and never fully develop as you would hope. I remember full well a Leeds youth side that beat MU in the youth cup – the MU kids included many who were part of the title winning side that so thrilled Alan Hansen shortly after whereas the Leeds team consisted of players who were international class at that age but mostly ended up in the lower divisions.A season ago you might have included Jonny Howson in this list. Two or threee seasons ago, there would’ve been a mention for Danny Rose and any number of Middlesbro’ youngsters. Support The Guardian johnny5eyes Share 13 Nov 2008 17:18 13 Nov 2008 17:32 | Pick Please select Personal abuse Off topic Legal issue Trolling Hate speech Offensive/Threatening language Copyright Spam Other Report Reuse this content,View all comments > 13 Nov 2008 15:26 Baxter is a massive talent but this “better than Rooney at 14” stuff is rubbish. Rooney was simply the best youth player I have ever seen, he was so far ahead of kids his own age it was almost unfair. Whilst Baxter has the skill and technique he lacks the raw power of Rooney and plays in a more withdrawn role generally.Baxter goal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70MSUhQBVI8Rodwell is playing in a midfield role for Everton at the moment but Moyes sees him as a centre back in the long term. He is very classy on the ball, good in the air and physically strong. He has been tipped to be a star for about the last 3 years.Other kids to watch out for are Ross Barkley and Hallam Hope who were the stars of our Milk Cup win earlier this year. Ross is a Gerrard-esque midfielder and Hope is a rangy striker.Incidentally in Evertons recent 3-2 win over Liverpool reserves 9 of our 11 players were from within 30 minutes of our ground whilst Liverpool had 2 from this country. This isn’t put solely to have a pop at Liverpool (after all they won the reserve league last year) but just to say it is sad that SO many players are imported at 16 from overseas. route22Nov 13 08, 3:48am (about 3 hours ago)”Any Keepers?”Joe Hart, Robert Green and Kirkland [who has been outstanding]Robert Green and Chris Kirkland are not exactly youngsters? I suspect many that bang on about Green are either Hammers supporters or don’t watch the bloke on a regular basis. He’s up there with Almunia and Gomes and never international class, whereas Kirkland has had a career blighted by injury, otherwise would have likely been a regular – I hope Ben Foster, whom you’ve omitted, manages to overcome his own setbacks to develop into the keeper he promises to be.Thjere’s also a damn good youth/U18 keeper at Leeds but in deference to other bloggers wishes, I won’t bore you further by mentioning him.. Twitter How is Shelvey in here, i saw him in the league cup and he wasn’t even good against lower league opposition. Wilshere is an amazing player, great left foot who could take over from Fabregas if he is eventually lured away by Barcelona. Share on Facebook 0 1 Reply Sorry there was an error. Please try again later. If the problem persists, please contact Userhelp | Pick 13 Nov 2008 16:33 “Any Keepers?”Joe Hart, Robert Green and Kirkland [who has been outstanding] 3 0 1 Share on Twitter Facebook 13 Nov 2008 17:39 Topics 13 Nov 2008 11:33 Share Lowfields None of those Arsenal boys will ever come near Fabergas, when he is sold there will be no replacement, players of that quality come around once a generation and England has had it player of world quality for this generation and he retired because you wanted to play fat Frank with that big hacker of the ball Gerrard in the middle, well done. 0 1 kayakking Facebook 0 1 Share Timak – as bad as last night performance was, i was very excited to see Stephen Darby make his debut for liverpool, i didnt realise we had any young scousers in the squad, thought they were all from hungary… Facebook hungrymanjosh Share on Facebook comments (107)Sign in or create your Guardian account to join the discussion. Share on Twitter Share on Twitter Share Twitter Twitter 0 1 13 Nov 2008 15:33 Reply kermitbantam Ramalution Share Twitter Share Twitter 0 1 KeithSimmonds Report Share on Pinterest I didnt think much of Rodwell in his first few games this season but he looked ok against Fulham. Its a big role for a young lad, it amazes me how Arsene Wenger is able to put the likes of Denilson or Fabregas into such an important role in central midfield from such a young age. I think Rodwell could be really good though. Not sure about Baxter mainly because his chances are going to be limited barring injuries. Everton are pretty strong in the strikers department with the Yak, Saha, Vic and Vaughan all ahead of Baxter. If he convinces the boss he should be ahead of any of those it will be a miracle. I take it the Guardian’s bizarre decision to restrict this list to English players means it doesn’t want any readers from Wales, Scotland or Ireland. Is the writer unaware of Wales’s record in youth-level football under Brian Flynn and the numerous youngsters, led by Ramsay, who look like making an impact at the top level? Or did he/she just decide to ignore them? 0 1 Report Reply 0 1 Report 13 Nov 2008 10:20 Share Facebook Facebook Share Share on Twitter | Pick | Pick Let’s build em up, then cut em down.It all looks very nice on paper, but……….. Reply | Pick Share on Facebook | Pick 0 1 Share on Facebook Twitter | Pick | Pick 0 1 Share on Facebook 0 1 Share on Twitter | Pick THEBIGBEE 13 Nov 2008 16:24 5 Report Facebook Reply Report Reply Twitter Any Keepers? Share on Twitter Lowfields Share on WhatsApp Share on Twitter | Pick Share Report 0 1 “Looks like the makings of a potential world-cup winning team, right there. A true golden generation.”I heard that somewhere before offside……now when was it? | Pick 13 Nov 2008 11:35 Reply 13 Nov 2008 17:49 Share Twitter 13 Nov 2008 17:42 Reply Share Facebook Reply Two points.The kneejerk cynicysm from people about a bunch of players most of them haven’t seen is depressing and rather pathetic.(although typical of these blogs…and in fact Britain as a whole).The Guardian neither knows or cares anything about football ouside the premiership (Leeds are still an ‘Honorary ‘ Prem side as someone has already mentioned). Facebook Thanks Pierrelemer for pointing out the obvious about Leeds… although Micah Richards, who played for Leeds City Boys, was never properly on our books.The fact that we’re mentioned here, Pollitt, is not because we’re a massive club – what are we, 45 places behind Chelsea? – but because we are consistently one of the best clubs at generating young talent and bringing it through to first-team level.Maybe only West Ham can rival our ability to develop players who don’t just make a professional debut, but go on to have a decent top-flight career.In 2001, in the semi-final of the Champions League, nine of the 18-man squad that faced Valencia were home-grown academy products – and all were full internationals. Liverpool have developed, what, two homegrown Premiership regulars in this century? Have Chelsea produced any?Even now in League One, Leeds have Fabian Delph, who will, barring injury, get 50 caps for England – whether at Elland Road or somewhere else. Aiden White will play in the Premiership and while Johnny Howson might not be at the same level, he is another Leeds lad who will have a good career in the game, as is Ben Parker.This is not an accident. It’s not because we’re a “big” club. It’s because Howard Wilkinson developed, starting the moment he joined in 1988, the most advanced youth set-up in the country. And it continues to bear fruit – even though we’re in the lower leagues now.And I for one would rather have a team of local lads busting their balls in the Championship/League One than the pack of Spanish/Senegalese/French/Cameroonian/Swedish mercanaries who got us relegated four years ago….. Share on Facebook Z34run Share on Twitter Report Twitter Report | Pick Share on Twitter Share on Twitter Report England’s future stars: 20 to watch Comments 107 Share on Facebook 5 Facebook Share on Facebook Share on Facebook Report | Pick 2 Share on Twitter “Leeds are still an ‘Honorary ‘ Prem side…”Thanks Johnny5eyes!Can we have an “honourary” £30 million in TV rights a season and an “honourary” bye into the FA Cup 3rd Round, then….???????Actually, no, can we have our 25 points returned to us…? That would be really honourable. Twitter Share Report | Pick Timak 0 1 Share Share on Twitter Share route22 Twitter Share on Facebook Reply 13 Nov 2008 10:22 13 Nov 2008 11:02 Twitter Report Share on Facebook 0 1 Share on Facebook Reply 0 1 Report 4 Twitter Share on Twitter Close report comment form 2 Twitter 0 1 13 Nov 2008 16:08 Twitter View more commentslast_img

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